About this Episode

Empty Nesters 2.0 | Mary & Jerry Podcast S3E1

Season 3 is here—and a lot has happened since you last saw us. Mary & Jerry celebrate 40 years since they met (yes, Top Gun was involved), share what it was really like having their kids and grandkids move in for nine months, and unpack Jerry’s major career change after 40 years in defense. Mary also reveals what it took to get her newest book (on the gifts of the Holy Spirit) through theological editing, and they give you a peek into their “Empty Nester 2.0” reset—decluttering battles, DIY painting plans, and the ongoing war on cookbooks. Plus: a no-construction miracle road trip, a marriage night in Michigan, and the return of the not-so-newlywed game.

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